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30 | Turning Passion into Muscles | Joshua Bachand

From Odd Jobs to Muscles
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Meet Joshua, a perpetual seeker of fulfillment, who wandered through an array of odd jobs, searching for purpose. Despite the uncertainty, one constant remained—his love for fitness. In the gym, he found solace, a sanctuary where his passion thrived. Joshua took a leap of faith, transitioning into a career as a personal trainer. Guiding others toward their fitness goals became his calling.

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Alternate Titles For The Algorithm:

From Odd Jobs to Fitness: A Journey of Self-Discovery

Finding Purpose: The Odyssey of an Odd Job Enthusiast Turned Personal Trainer

Odd Jobs to Fitness: Unraveling the Path to Passion

Wandering to Wellness: The Story of an Odd Job Nomad Turned Personal Trainer

Discovering Strength: A Tale of Odd Jobs and Fitness Passion

Embracing Change: From Odd Job Hopper to Fitness Leader

The Fitness Odyssey: From Odd Jobs to Personal Trainer Extraordinaire

Odd Jobs, Fit Life: How One Wanderer Found Their Calling

The Evolution of Passion: Odd Jobs to Fitness Fulfillment

From Oddities to Fitness Focus: A Personal Trainer's Journey

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Hey, all.

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This is Elyse Robinson

with Nobody Wants to Work, No.

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Podcast.

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Today, we have Joshua Bunchard.

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And go ahead and introduce

yourself, Joshua.

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Hello.

How are you doing?

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Thank you, Elyse,

for allowing me to introduce myself.

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My name is Joshua Banshaad,

and I'm grateful for this opportunity

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to share why I've changed

over to what I've...

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From one career to another.

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And I'm actually deep diving

in my purpose, and I'll share that here.

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Yes, I'm a real believer

of walking in your purpose.

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Absolutely.

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So what did you want

to be when you grew up?

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Or then, grown up?

Yeah.

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So growing up, honestly,

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when my stepdad was alive, God rest

and so I thought about being a plumber.

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And later on,

as I got older, that idea faded away and

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I ended up getting into personal training

because I fell in love with fitness

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and wanting to help people

become healthier versions of themselves.

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I'm curious, though, why did

you not want to be a plumber?

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Because when I was a kid,

I wanted to be a vet.

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But I'm trying to sit here

and think why I didn't want...

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Oh, why I didn't want to be a vet anymore?

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Because I learned that they had

to go to school for 15 years.

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And I'm like, That is

going to work for me.

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Well, I've always been very active.

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So with me being very active and becoming

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a personal trainer I'm helping others

become a little bit more active and get

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some energy back that they may have lost

from being out of shape and unhealthy.

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So that was more interesting to me.

Got you.

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You got to burn up the energy.

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Okay, I see.

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All right, so where did your career begin?

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What was your very first career

before you got the personal training?

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Before I bounced around.

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I never had a career.

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I became a personal trainer.

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I'll Honest, my background is

a lot of street, unfortunately.

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But I learned a lot,

and I'm still here and alive and well,

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and again, able to walk in my purpose,

which I'm very I'm grateful for.

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That's where my path really entailed.

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Okay.

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And what was the catalyst that made

you want to become a personal trainer?

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Did you have this thought of becoming

a personal trainer when you were a kid or

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something happened that made you

want to become a personal trainer?

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Being around people that looked unhealthy

and never being a person that made fun

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of overweight people, but look

at them as a way, how can I help them?

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Because I love people.

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Again, I was always working on training

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in the gym,

and I chose to make a career out of it so

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I could get paid to help

people get healthy.

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That's funny because as an entrepreneur,

and you hear people talk about, Don't

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make your love or your passion into a

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career because you end up hating it.

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Do you hate it at any point in time?

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I mean, did you think about that?

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I don't think The thing with it is because

I love it, it doesn't feel like work.

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I don't know because I run into that a

lot of times as I'm an entrepreneur.

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One thing that I created during

COVID was a tech freebie website.

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I launched it.

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I got my first customer,

literally the first day it launched.

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I made it to help myself.

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Then somebody I knew was like,

You should make money off of it.

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I was like, Okay, well, shoot.

Yeah.

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Then once I got into doing it, every day,

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once a week or whatever,

I started to hate it.

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I'm like, This is work,

but maybe I don't like the work.

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Maybe that's the problem.

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It could be it.

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I'm not going to say that.

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I'm supposed to be rich.

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Let me see.

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All things come at a cost.

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What did it cost you along the way?

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Not just as in price,

Do you have any certifications?

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Did your family think you were crazy

trying to become a personal trainer

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because you don't have

big muscles or whatever?

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No, I mean, I

think there is always a cost.

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There's an investing.

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I went from getting several certifications

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and studying intensely

because I needed that.

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In order to pass.

I'm not the easy.

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I'm not the one that retains well.

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So there was a whole lot of highlighting,

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tutoring, and taking tests several times,

and then finally passing.

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And then being able to humble myself

knowing that I'm not going to get paid

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faith, nor should I deserve to

at a good rate in the beginning.

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So that was a little bit of a

struggle for a short period of time.

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So, yeah, getting paid minimum wage.

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I mean, not just minimum wage,

it was more so like a sales.

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You're getting bait.

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When you're starting off in the gym as

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a personal trainer,

as a newbie in that field, you're

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not getting a wage,

but you're also not getting clients.

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And getting clients is the only way

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to make money because

it's based off commission.

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You get a percentage off

of each client that you do get.

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So that was definitely a sacrifice.

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And getting up early in the morning

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to repeat that

day, which would start at 5:00 AM

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and maybe end at 6:00,

7:00 PM and then repeat that.

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Hoping for a better day the next day.

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But I learned a lot.

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Yeah.

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No, I don't miss those days.

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Don't miss them at all.

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I remember those days.

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But you have to put the work

in in order to get to where you are.

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I tell people that all the time,

especially the young people.

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I don't know what's up with these young

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people that think that they

don't have to put in no work.

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Then they have this idea in their

head that work is supposed to be fun.

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I'm like, Work ain't

necessarily supposed to be fun.

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There's a very small percentage of people

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where they get to live

out the funness of work.

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But I say most people just never get that.

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The whole definition of work is

a negative connotation with it.

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Where do you get off that work

is supposed to be fun?

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They complain about stupid things.

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They're not being sexually harassed.

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It's not racial discrimination or gender

discrimination or something like that.

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But they're, Oh, well,

I don't have any passion for it.

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I'm like, But you...

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So I'm confused.

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It's different.

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But my whole idea of work is

so I can live a certain lifestyle,

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and then outside of work, I can pursue

the things that I actually love.

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I don't want my job stress in me,

and my lifestyle has to be good.

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That's why I'm an accountant

because it meshes with my lifestyle.

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I don't really care for accounting 99.

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9% of time, but it pays me bills.

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Let me see what else.

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Let's see.

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You said that you did other things.

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What was the process on switching

to being a personal trainer?

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Because I understand

that sales is a big thing.

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What type of certifications did you get?

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How did you get someone to take a chance

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on you and say, Hey,

can I be a personal trainer at your gym?

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Yeah.

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And how did you get someone

to take a chance on you?

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Well, to get there,

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I had to work all the nends as

far as jobs to make sure that those are

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getting paid in the meantime because I

wasn't living with my parents any longer.

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So that waiting on commission,

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money still had to come

from somewhere while doing that.

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But as far as getting a chance,

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I looked around for low-wing gyms

that would just give me an opportunity.

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And I've always been in good shape.

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So that helped.

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Did you want to look to Park, too?

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And that was always a big deal to me being

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professional,

being in great shape and being

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knowledgeable,

having experience in those areas.

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And as far as certifications,

I got a national certification,

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and then I also

I also got a certification in nutrition,

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got another one in group training,

and then the rest of it really just came

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with experience because the

certifications don't give you experience.

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They give you insight and knowledge on how

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to move the body a certain way,

especially in the time.

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Because every individual

client is very unique.

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So whether they have an injury or they're

trying to gain muscle,

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but they already have muscle,

they want more or they want to lose fat.

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It could be dealing with a woman that just

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had a baby four, five, six months out

from having a baby.

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So it's always different

dealing with ages as well.

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I never trained teenagers

or anything like athletes.

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I always train men.

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I'm 46 now, but I've always trained men

really close to my age.

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So I was always training men older

than me when I was in my 30s.

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Let's see.

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Yeah, I did physical therapy.

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What year is it?

2022.

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I did six months of physical therapy

because I have tons and tons of injuries.

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You do?

I did.

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What?

Huh?

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Played sports?

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No, I never played sports.

No.

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No?

No.

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One doctor told me that I have

hypermobility.

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So my phalanges and stuff move too much.

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Yoga.

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When I was a kid,

I never did any of that stuff because I

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was always scared that I was going

to hurt myself,

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which I guess as an adult, it probably was

good that I never did any of that stuff.

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I never did too much.

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But yeah, no, I did six months

of physical therapy And I loved it.

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I love water aerobics,

but that's my thing.

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Water aerobics are good.

Great.

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Yeah, you're just floating.

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So there's really no way to really hurt

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yourself because I'm

always scared of that.

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But what are some positives and what

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are some negatives of your career?

How's it?

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This goes on.

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Changing lives for the long haul

definitely is the number one positive.

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Negatives are I mean, it's a grind,

especially in the beginning for a while.

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It took me...

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It got me to a place where

I need to make a decision.

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Am I going to keep training in gyms?

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Am I going to get my own gym?

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Am I going to try and scale my own gym,

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start hiring, get a gym and hire

some clients, some other trainers.

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So

that's probably more of the negative

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because at one point,

you need to make a decision.

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If you find yourself

Training your life away.

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And it was hard.

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It was difficult at times

just trying to have some time for myself

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or even have time for me to go to the gym

because I'm up at 5:00 and I get a little

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break, like early afternoon time,

and then I'm back training again because

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you get the next wave of clients that will

come in and be getting out of work.

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And then you're training

them all until the evening.

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And that is over and over and over.

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I I get a Sunday off, but Saturdays can

be a day where there's a lot going on.

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Then you need to write programs and update

or update programs, create new ones.

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So what was your decision?

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Money is always there.

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The money's I was there.

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But then you can only make

a certain amount of money.

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That's some child.

How much am I going to charge a client?

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I can only charge a client so

much to where it makes sense.

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And then the other thing is if you're not

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training a client,

you're not making money.

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I can get the money ahead of time,

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but if I'm not in front of you,

I'm not making that money.

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And at some point, I need to get

in front of you physically.

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No.

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If someone cancels,

you still get money, right?

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Yeah, you got to hope on a cancel.

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Where I'm from, it snows.

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So we're used to the snow.

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It's not like it snows.

It's too cold.

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I'm not coming out to meet you at the gym.

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I'm like, We're used to that.

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Bundle up when we go.

Yeah.

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No.

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I'll call a cancel if it's

a little drip drop of rain outside.

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I'm not coming.

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I'm not coming out.

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It could be 85 degrees.

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I'm not coming out.

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So what was your decision?

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Did you open up a gym or did

you- I never opened up a gym.

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I would just I would run around.

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As you know, we have

a train back home in Boston.

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So I would go to

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these luxury apartment complexes

where there was already gyms

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in the bottom,

and then you had the apartments up top.

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And I'd meet people,

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they'd come off the elevator,

out of the apartment, whatever,

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and then I'd meet them right in the gym

and then take off, go to the next one.

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And that's what I did for a while.

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And I forgot about COVID.

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When COVID came, I lost all my clients,

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and that's when I had to make

a decision of what I was going to do.

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But I was already leaning

into it online training.

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And so I became an online trainer.

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I bought into this program that taught me

how to use this particular software where

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you can create programs,

tons of videos on it.

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I put them together,

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and then I deliver that through an app,

and I still have it to this day.

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So now at that point,

clients can now train on their own.

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I create a program, I send it to them,

I put it on their calendar,

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and they go right into my app

on that particular day and looking

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at whatever they're doing for that day,

whether it be legs or

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chest or some upper body workout,

high intensity, whatever I

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decided to design their program

or however I decided to design it.

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That's nice.

So what's the name of the app?

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It's Silverback Fit, like the gorilla.

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Silverback fit.

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Silverback fit?

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Okay.

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I train mostly men.

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I trained women in the beginning,

and I chose to get away from that.

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Why?

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I just- put you on the spot.

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Yeah, it's not.

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I had some relations early

in the beginning until I realized

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that the money wasn't going

to be made if I took that route.

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And that was part of me being a mature.

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But then also because I

connect very well with women.

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So sometimes sessions were turned into

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a stressed-out crying session

because they're going through it.

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I trained different people in stressed-out

jobs, especially in the city in Boston.

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There's a lot of stress.

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It's a fast-paced city, and

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The money might come with it, but the

stress comes with it times 10 as well.

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And then sometimes people

just can't handle that.

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A trainer can sometimes be a client's

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therapist at times, and it ends up being

like, All right, we need to work out.

[00:18:15.160]

We've been crying for a half hour.

[00:18:16.710]

We've been talking for another 15.

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You have 15 minutes left on this hour.

[00:18:20.390]

What do you want to do?

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So with men,

it's not so much about being a little bit

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more rough or like a drill sergeant,

but I can shut it down.

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And a lot of times,

men want to get out of it.

[00:18:34.550]

They want to get home from work

and just get right to it.

[00:18:37.650]

I'm not going to have a man

crying on my shoulder.

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And then first thing in the morning,

guys want to just get right to it.

[00:18:44.960]

Like, Hey, get out of here.

Hey, what's up?

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Let's get going.

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And then we have a different thing

about it sometimes when it's man to man.

[00:18:53.440]

Got you.

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No, you're stereotyping

the hell out of women.

[00:18:55.670]

But I ain't going to lie,

with all my injuries and issues with my

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body, that's a soft spot for me,

and I will get to crying.

[00:19:07.930]

I'll get to crying real quick.

[00:19:10.310]

We can cry, but at some point,

what do we want to do this on another day?

[00:19:16.600]

I'll cry and then probably go home.

[00:19:22.280]

I'll be back.

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Because at the end of the day,

I'm getting paid for it.

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So I feel bad.

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I'm not going to...

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We're taking up an hour out of my day,

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but it's also your hour,

but you're off to pay for this hour.

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And if we're going to cry and be upset

[00:19:41.350]

and talk about things that's cool,

but I still need to get paid.

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And we can't reschedule because

you're having a bad day.

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You showed up.

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You didn't cancel, you showed up.

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So we got to show up and go and just

get it in, get it over with.

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Oh, yeah.

No, definitely.

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No, I would set a hard line at that.

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If you show up, I'm getting paid.

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I don't care if we're having a cry

session, a talk session, whatever.

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I'm getting paid.

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So make sure you put

that in your on track.

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If you show up, and if you don't cancel,

I'm still going to get paid.

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That's one thing I don't play with in

business is I'm going to give me money.

[00:20:28.080]

But Let's see.

I guess that would be some

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of the negatives is having to be

someone's counselor all the damn time.

[00:20:41.160]

I know how that can get old.

[00:20:43.970]

Let's see.

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What are some traits that would make

someone a great personal trainer?

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Having the ability to meet

them where they're at.

[00:20:59.400]

Maybe Let me say, finding common ground.

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Finding common ground

and being able to just...

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You got to be able

to build a relationship.

[00:21:08.530]

I've seen trainers,

which I knew I had the advantage over,

[00:21:11.800]

but I've seen trainers where It's like

straight face, leaning on a machine.

[00:21:19.640]

The whole time you have a client training,

[00:21:21.520]

I see them leaning, looking at their

watch, looking at their phone.

[00:21:23.960]

I'm like, all of that.

[00:21:24.990]

If I'm a client, you're getting fired.

[00:21:27.360]

I catch you doing that one time.

[00:21:28.710]

You're not here to engage with me,

motivate me, push me.

[00:21:33.170]

I'm tired and getting ready for work.

[00:21:35.970]

Let me get this momentum going

or I just get out of work.

[00:21:38.840]

I had a long day.

[00:21:39.470]

I need to get a good workout,

and I'm not here to just drag along.

[00:21:44.030]

And meeting them where

they're at, too, again.

[00:21:47.190]

So it's like,

for me, energy is going to change,

[00:21:51.070]

but the effort doesn't,

meaning it's not a nervous thing for me.

[00:21:54.810]

I might not be able to

[00:21:58.720]

get as many As much of an ab workout,

the ab workout won't be as intense maybe

[00:22:06.110]

as it was last Wednesday,

but my effort is always going to be there.

[00:22:11.250]

So I'm still going to get results.

[00:22:13.440]

I'm not going to, Okay, I got 12.

[00:22:15.030]

No, That 12 rep, I really felt that.

[00:22:19.320]

So that's just the thing right there.

[00:22:21.710]

You got to recognize

being able to recognize where that client

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is for that day

and for that particular session.

[00:22:28.120]

So that's what it is.

[00:22:29.250]

Meeting them where they're

at and building good relationship.

[00:22:34.400]

Communication.

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What are some tips and tricks you would

[00:22:40.830]

give someone that wanted

to be a personal trainer?

[00:22:43.800]

Is there any shortcuts they can take?

[00:22:45.230]

Start early in life instead

of starting in their 40s?

[00:22:52.890]

Somebody wants to start in their 40s?

[00:22:54.790]

You always want to,

for one, get a certification.

[00:23:00.320]

And get a lot of repetition

as far as starting to train.

[00:23:05.810]

When you're first, clients should be

friends of yours that you can practice on.

[00:23:14.520]

Bringing them to your house if you have

[00:23:16.430]

a gym in the garage or

going to the gym with them.

[00:23:19.930]

That's a good thing.

[00:23:21.310]

And having confidence in yourself,

having belief in yourself,

[00:23:24.720]

knowing what you're doing,

pay attention to what you're doing,

[00:23:27.450]

knowing how to correct somebody's form and

understand that.

[00:23:31.990]

Because what you don't want

[00:23:34.120]

more than anything else is somebody

getting hurt while you're training them.

[00:23:42.760]

What did you wish you knew

before you started this career?

[00:23:51.040]

That I wish I knew.

[00:23:54.880]

I would say the business side of things.

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Yeah, I would say the business side

[00:24:01.750]

of things, learning more about

getting like an LLC

[00:24:06.530]

and being able to tie all

of that in and getting into tax write offs

[00:24:11.190]

and understanding the business side of it,

the the Panua side of it.

[00:24:16.170]

I did think so much on the fly,

taking cash, literally.

[00:24:20.490]

If I could go back all over and start all

[00:24:25.550]

over, I would treat it just as a business

should be treated on the books,

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get a LOC, and be consistent in that way,

being better with money.

[00:24:41.600]

Just treat it like a business.

[00:24:44.000]

Don't treat it like a hobby.

[00:24:45.120]

I'm going to the gym today,

train somebody.

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I had that mentality sometime

because clients came to me.

[00:24:51.200]

It was easy for me because

it was home for one.

[00:24:53.510]

It's not that I always train people I

knew, but you get a lot of clients based

[00:24:57.950]

off of referrals at some point when

you're doing it for a long period of time.

[00:25:04.880]

I think a lot of people struggle

[00:25:07.590]

with the business side, and that's one

of the reasons why I studied accounting.

[00:25:12.430]

I took the first accounting class three

[00:25:16.270]

times before I was like, and I would drop

it and be like, I didn't want to do it.

[00:25:22.960]

I took it three times before I buckled

down and be like, Hey, get it done.

[00:25:27.730]

Then once I started getting into tax

[00:25:30.690]

and audit and things like that,

I started to like it.

[00:25:34.970]

But that has served me well because

accounting is the language of business.

[00:25:43.770]

Everybody wants to know what comes in,

[00:25:46.350]

what comes out,

and then tax is a huge one.

[00:25:48.910]

With the same.

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The only thing guarantee

in life is death and taxes.

[00:25:53.960]

I tell people all the time, at least, at

least, to take an intro to business class.

[00:26:02.320]

Now we have YouTube and Cocera and all

[00:26:06.230]

these other places, Udemy,

where you can take stuff for free.

[00:26:10.770]

So there's really no reason because

they didn't have all that when I was

[00:26:15.120]

a kid, and they surely

didn't have it when you were.

[00:26:21.560]

But I'm showing my age.

[00:26:25.050]

But I told me, Well,

at least if you're going to start

[00:26:28.320]

a business, at least take a little

intro to in this class, please.

[00:26:31.450]

But outside of that, let's see.

[00:26:39.400]

Yeah, and last question is,

[00:26:41.350]

what would you tell someone

that wanted to start this career?

[00:26:47.960]

Be ready.

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Bring your energy.

[00:26:51.810]

Be ready for the grind.

[00:26:54.320]

Take care of your body

and make sure that you have some Make

[00:27:02.320]

sure that you have either some money put

away already or you already have a job

[00:27:06.830]

that can pay you the bills

and that you don't burn yourself out.

[00:27:10.880]

Because what's going to happen is if you

do have a job that's paying the bills

[00:27:13.790]

and now you're trying to squeeze in this

new training career, you need time.

[00:27:18.010]

It's going to conflict.

[00:27:19.930]

You can't work a third shift regular job

and get out at...

[00:27:24.600]

When would that?

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Yeah, then get out at, I don't know,

6:00 in the morning from in that third

[00:27:30.350]

shift job and think that you're going

to train clients that need you to be there

[00:27:34.810]

early in the morning and think

that you can continue that.

[00:27:39.210]

So you need to find a balance.

[00:27:40.890]

You need to find a balance

and find it quick.

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I would say start off with some savings,

maybe three, four, five months,

[00:27:48.210]

even six months worth of some bills,

bill money already put away

[00:27:53.960]

and then jump into it because you're

not going to make money right away.

[00:27:56.770]

And I realized that in the beginning,

[00:28:00.120]

Real quick, actually,

that just because I have this reputable,

[00:28:07.450]

highly recognized certification,

doesn't mean I'm going to put that down

[00:28:11.430]

on the counter or at an interview at a gym

and say, okay, They give me my money.

[00:28:16.490]

They don't even know me.

[00:28:18.080]

They don't know me from a hole in a wall,

so I got to show and prove.

[00:28:20.160]

It don't matter regardless of what you're

doing in life, you get a certification

[00:28:23.310]

in anything or a degree in something,

you still have to show and prove.

[00:28:27.050]

I thought about being a cook years ago,

and And it was like, you'll literally come

[00:28:31.870]

out of a culinary school

and you might be prepping,

[00:28:35.520]

you might even be just helping out

around the kitchen, helping out the chef.

[00:28:39.230]

You're not going to just jump in and start

[00:28:41.670]

grabbing on, like grabbing this

bull by the horns right away.

[00:28:45.670]

You need to earn that spot.

[00:28:48.280]

So be ready.

[00:28:49.600]

Be ready for the grind and be

ready to not get paid right away.

[00:28:54.600]

You mentioned show and prove.

[00:28:56.400]

What does that mean exactly when

it comes to personal training?

[00:28:59.440]

When you went to, I'm just going to name

[00:29:01.310]

a gym, Planet Fitness

or something like that.

[00:29:04.490]

What did they ask you to do in order to

keep your spot instead of giving it to Mr.

[00:29:11.030]

Willy down the street?

Repetition.

[00:29:13.480]

You need to build

a reputation for yourself.

[00:29:15.230]

Your reputation needs to come

with getting clients' results.

[00:29:23.480]

Putting that together,

like having a portfolio

[00:29:27.570]

as you train clients,

have clients that We're not shy in taking

[00:29:31.020]

before and after pictures for you

because that's going to be a big deal.

[00:29:34.600]

That's going to help out a lot.

[00:29:37.510]

Recommend referrals.

[00:29:41.000]

But yeah, you definitely need to...

[00:29:43.430]

You need to build a reputation.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

Patient.

[00:29:50.080]

When I started my little entrepreneurship

journey in Mexico, I

[00:29:56.250]

came with a substantial amount of money,

I guess, especially Especially for Mexico.

[00:30:02.720]

I couldn't imagine starting a business

[00:30:05.360]

in America and having to have savings

because there's no health insurance.

[00:30:13.310]

You can't just go to the doctor.

[00:30:15.350]

Yeah.

Yeah.

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You're all willy-nilly like you can

in Mexico or another country, which is...

[00:30:23.440]

After I've lived in another country,

it's really crazy to me.

[00:30:28.450]

As someone that has

[00:30:30.920]

worked in the healthcare industry,

and I have family members that work

[00:30:34.390]

in the healthcare industry,

I gripe about it all the time.

[00:30:40.720]

That alone stifles entrepreneurship

in the United States.

[00:30:48.800]

But yeah, I'll totally agree that you

definitely need some savings if you're

[00:30:53.310]

going to pursue probably

pretty much anything in life.

[00:30:57.170]

Sure, that new career, entrepreneurship,

[00:30:59.810]

whatever, whatever, because

unfortunately, it may not work out.

[00:31:07.890]

Anything else you want to say?

No.

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I think that's pretty much it.

[00:31:20.760]

And honestly,

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if I would say one more thing,

because I'm a true believer

[00:31:29.720]

in And that you can love what you're

doing and make money off of it.

[00:31:32.590]

So if

[00:31:35.730]

you really want to do something and you

really love whatever that is,

[00:31:40.730]

have belief in yourself, pursue it,

be patient, and definitely don't give up.

[00:31:47.320]

And that's something that's a part of me

[00:31:52.290]

that caused a lot of restarting over

in so many areas in times of my life.

[00:31:59.490]

I I say caused a lot of setbacks because

[00:32:01.830]

I've attempted a couple

of different things.

[00:32:05.880]

It's always a start.

[00:32:07.400]

You got to start from scratch again.

You get to start from scratch again.

[00:32:09.280]

You get to start from scratch again.

[00:32:10.770]

Just really know what you want to do

and then go all out.

[00:32:14.530]

Go all out, don't stop,

and believe in yourself.

[00:32:20.160]

No, definitely.

[00:32:20.890]

I don't like to call them setbacks

because everything's a learning lesson.

[00:32:25.730]

It is.

[00:32:27.690]

To my point, what I mean is if you're

[00:32:31.490]

starting from scratch every single time,

it is an experience.

[00:32:36.550]

But my brother would tell me,

Stay in doing one thing.

[00:32:43.050]

Lock in on this and then stay doing that

[00:32:46.210]

instead of like, I'm just tired of this

after I just invested money and time.

[00:32:50.050]

Whether it be school, because I was going

to be not a therapist, a psychologist.

[00:32:56.240]

I went to a community school back home

in Boston for a little bit working with...

[00:32:59.870]

I was working with high-risk teens,

and then I stopped going to school.

[00:33:03.840]

And then I was like,

What am I going to do now?

[00:33:05.310]

I thought about being a bobo.

[00:33:07.760]

And I didn't pursue that.

[00:33:08.950]

I should have, could have,

whatever I didn't.

[00:33:11.770]

And then became a trainer.

[00:33:15.720]

I see it as you're trying to figure out

[00:33:22.600]

what you want to do,

which is perfectly fine.

[00:33:26.830]

And unfortunately, that costs time and it

[00:33:30.240]

costs money, and you ain't

never going to get it back.

[00:33:31.930]

But once you find

what it is that you want to do,

[00:33:37.360]

you look back and be like,

Oh, it wasn't really a waste.

[00:33:42.210]

You were learning along the way because

[00:33:45.510]

you took everything that you did and you

put it in your personal training.

[00:33:49.750]

I'm a thousand % sure of that.

[00:33:52.410]

But sometimes you got to do that in order

to find where you're trying be.

[00:34:02.970]

When I was in Mexico,

for the first two years, I

[00:34:07.170]

told myself I wanted to learn Spanish,

but I wasn't really learning it.

[00:34:11.650]

I just had to, number one,

[00:34:13.670]

mourn and number two, just figure

out the lay of the land, basically.

[00:34:19.970]

I'm in this huge city,

and I'm finding friends,

[00:34:24.390]

and learning where to go to the doctor,

and all that good stuff.

[00:34:31.050]

To me, when I was in the thick of it,

I was like, damn, you lost two years.

[00:34:36.360]

And I'm like, no, you don't have to lose

two years because now you know a big-ass

[00:34:39.750]

city, and you got people you can kick

it when you go down there all the time.

[00:34:43.950]

I have a whole adopted family

and everything else now.

[00:34:49.390]

It's really crazy.

[00:34:53.650]

You beat yourself up about it,

but in reality, you really shouldn't.

[00:34:59.130]

So But yeah, that's just how I see it.

[00:35:03.890]

And I agree.

[00:35:06.150]

I don't disagree.

[00:35:08.200]

My thing is it's really good to just own

[00:35:12.710]

in on something

instead of bouncing around.

[00:35:15.590]

But yeah, you do.

[00:35:16.790]

There's always a positive,

and I do the same.

[00:35:19.390]

I always make sure that I see

the positive, the light in that.

[00:35:22.910]

It wasn't a dark time, but I always

make sure that I look for that positive.

[00:35:27.570]

And I have a lot

of experiences from in that.

[00:35:32.320]

Yeah, definitely.

As long as you're not hurting yourself or

[00:35:35.990]

anyone else, I don't see

it as a serious loss.

[00:35:41.640]

You can get money again.

[00:35:45.310]

You may not get that time back,

[00:35:47.850]

but you take that experience

and use it probably every day now.

[00:35:53.570]

Was it really a loss?

[00:35:58.850]

No, it wasn't.

[00:36:00.050]

It's just your journey.

[00:36:02.490]

Just your journey.

[00:36:03.840]

Yeah.

[00:36:05.120]

All right, Joshua,

we're going to close it out.

[00:36:09.200]

Thank you for coming on the show.

[00:36:12.010]

I appreciate it.

[00:36:14.450]

Tell me, tell people where to find you.

[00:36:18.610]

So you can find me on Instagram at

josh_bashan.

[00:36:24.610]

The last name is spelled B-A-C-H-A-N-D.

[00:36:27.490]

It's the same exact for Facebook.

[00:36:31.130]

And all my information is

in there in my profile and my bio.

[00:36:35.370]

And look out for my merch.

[00:36:37.600]

I'm going to be starting that pretty soon.

[00:36:39.360]

It's actually in the making right now.

[00:36:40.830]

I have my logo and everything else,

and we're putting that out.

[00:36:44.810]

And yeah, just pushing along.

[00:36:47.850]

So if anybody wants to follow me or learn

anything that I have

[00:36:51.290]

that they can possibly be inspired by or

need help in, whatever, let me know.

[00:36:59.570]

Easy to reach.

All right.

[00:37:01.720]

Thank you, you all for listening,

watching wherever you all at.

[00:37:05.610]

My name is Elyse Robinson with

Nobody Wants to Work, though, podcast.

[00:37:10.130]

And until next time..